a guy calling for a huge surge in the dow. he is seth masters, bernstein global wealth management. he is calling important the dow to hit 20,000. >> we also have all the way on the other side, the ultimate bear. harry says the market will go down before it goes up. his call is dow 3,000. harry, really? dow 3,000? it feels as if everything would have to like collapse in on itself luke a black hole to get to 3,000. >> that's what we have seen for decades now. baby boom. we tracked demographics and were more bullish than anybody in the 'zmints 2000. we saw this giant generation spending more money, borrowing more money, technology, internet, rising. now it is the opposite. from 2008 to 2020, the baby bust points trends down. less home buying, less spending. baby boomers are going to be saving for retirement. will is no way you can stimulate your way out of this. i would agree with seth in normal times. 20,000 is a reasonable target. but hey, just like we boomed on precedented bubbles, last few decades, when we see a correction after a major debt and demographic bubble like this, you see